ABOUT OWNER TO OWNER
Owner To Owner is the boldest business podcast for the owners of Australia’s small & medium-sized businesses.
Forget the slick stories of tech titans and unicorns, and out-of-reach strategies and advice from people who've never put their livelihood and hopes on the line.
Host Michael Kerr gets raw and real, talking to business owners like you. Exploring the everyday struggles they face and the different pathways they tread to success.
Owner To Owner dives into the wins and losses, pitfalls, luck and moments that made a difference.
You'll find grit, laughter, maybe a few tears and hard-won lessons only available from others who have been where you are - whatever your stage of ownership.
Every business owner has a compelling story to share.
YOUR HOST michael kerr


Michael Kerr is the host of Owner To Owner podcast.
Michael has worked with thousands of business owners since starting Kerr Capital in 2001. He provides advice that helps owners focus on making their businesses more valuable and easier to run, as they choose to keep and grow, or sell what they've built.
He's worked in Accounting, Commercial Banking, had time leading business development for a venture capital backed start up and key mentoring and advisory roles in the Social Enterprise sector.
His first taste of owning a small business was as a co-founder of the Melbourne Food Truck hall of famers, hot dog vending specialist Doctor Dog.
He's has a B.Comm (University of Melbourne), and MBA (Melbourne Business School) and is a licenced business broker and registered business valuer.
some of our 150+ Episodes
From Corporate to Small Business Owner and back to Corporate: What Elise Heslop learned along the way.
Elise Heslop founded and successfully exited Plyroom. Before and after that formative small business experience she worked in senior corporate roles. Elise talks about leaving a safe corporate role, taking a sabbatical in Italy that seeded her desire to start her own business, and how that led to he...
Enhancing Business Value with Employee Ownership: Craig West Founder of Succession Plus
Dr. Craig West, founder of Succession Plus, explains the transformative impact of employee ownership programs on business value and succession planning. The discussion covers the benefits of employee share plans, the importance of early exit planning, the role of employee ownership in retaining key ...
To grow your business be brave and get comfortable taking imperfect action, Gabe Villarreal
Gabe Villarreal scaled a liquor business to a million dollars in monthly revenue, and then sold. While the plan had always been to sell it was far from smooth sailing. Gabe shares his best lessons learned including his philosophy on the importance of continuously taking imperfect action and learning...
Juggling Passion and Financial Sustainability in the NFP Sector: Jacquie Riddell
Jackie Riddell and host Michael Kerr explore how not-for-profits and social enterprises can meet everyday financial challenges while maintaining a focus on core purpose. They discuss emerging business models and the need to adapt in a rapidly growing and competitive NFP sector.
Decoding AI: Strategies for Small Business Success: David Brudenell, Decidr.
David Brudenell from Decidr.ai outlines the business transforming opportunities available right now through adoption of Agentic AI. The discussion also touches on the role of government support and policy in facilitating rapid and widespread AI adoption.
How to secure a better deal leasing or buying a commercial property: Vicki Likoudis from True North Buyer's Advocate
Michael Kerr and Vicki Likoudis from True North Buyers Advocates talk about the favorable but time-limited market cycle opportunity for small business owners who are lessees or aspiring owners in the commercial property market. Vicki talks at length about what negotiation strategies are needed, and ...
Super charging the growth of employee owned Small Businesses, Stephen Greenwood, Global CEO, Valloop
Michael Kerr, Stephen Greenwood, Global CEO of Valloop, and Hunter Page, Australian Director of Valloop, discuss the global imperative to successfully transition more SMEs for the benefit of owners, communities, economies and employees. They discuss the socio-economic benefits and the innovative mod...
The future of clean. EWater's Phil Gregory on building the worlds most sustainable cleaning solution.
Phil Gregory, founder on creating eWater Systems 'The Future of Clean'. Phil shares his experiences of starting up, raising capital, securing rights to key technology, growing and, of recent, starting the exit planning process.
Strategies for crafting your small business brand: Tracy Fryer from Design Studio Perth
Explores essential branding strategies for small businesses, focusing on creating a compelling brand identity and understanding your ideal client. Covers the importance of tailoring your brand message to build emotional connections and foster customer loyalty.
BizVal Global founder Graham Stephen on making your business more valuable and sellable.
Graham Stephen estimates that 85% - 90% of SMEs are not sellable! It's alarming and its why he's building BizVal Global as a valuation platform to educate owners and advisers.
Amy Christopherson founder of Grounded HR, making your small business team click.
Michael Kerr and Amy Christopherson, founder of Grounded HR, explore the significance of leadership in employee engagement, navigating difficult conversations, and building a positive workplace culture.
Honor Northam from Honorbread on employee ownership and fostering resilient local economies.
Honor Northam co-founder of Honorbread, a bakery and vital local employer in Bermagui, NSW, on employee ownership models and increasing local economic resilience.












